Firstly, before I say anything specific to the subject of this forum post, I want to take a moment to thank @Eric and all the rest of you folks since I joined the community for the times i've needed some assistance with one aspect of Virtualmin or another. Everybody needs help every now and then-and I'm sure that for those of you experienced users-even founders of Virtualmin, I'm sure at one point you've all had to help each other with even what seems like rather mundaine issues.
Secondly, for the few posts that have been several screens in length, I want to apologise for that.
I didn't realise until I looked at the input format with my screen-reading program what was going on, so the times I actually pressed enter made no difference.
Does anyone have some tips on this? Or must I be forced to set my input format to "Filtered HTML" per-posting?
I can do it, but it's slightly annoying to have to remember to enter the list of links on a webpage with my particular program, press I until I hear "Input Format", then find the radio button that says "Filtered HTML".
That being out of the way, however, I wanted to take a moment to applaud Jamie and Joe for working on the Webmin/Virtualmin stack as far as an ease of useage interface, especially where adaptive technology such as screen-readers is concerned.
While a lot of you in this community probably cannot appreciate this deserved applause due to you folks most likely all being fully sighted, I think that this should still be something worth mentioning.
For example, WHMCS and Virtualmin/Drupal probably being the top 3 accessible applications i've used (with a few others on the list), most other web interfaces, are a pain in the behind to actually use, since we use the keyboard strictly day in and day out as screen-reader users.
As far as web standards go, it's important to have properly labled form feelds attached to the intended types of controls, something that these above apps do well.
I'm applauding Jamie and Joe specificly here, because just like the WHMCS team, I don't think that either of these two realise that blind folks or given the proper screen magnification for those with low vision, can also use the software that they both take a lot of time to write for the rest of us.
It's nice when you find an application that just so happens amungst other things to be well written, labled forms and all that to boot is even nicer to see, or hear in this case. :)
I've had to occasionally, using many other web interfaces, go in, and attach custom lables because the developors didn't even make an effort to do it themselves.
Not so for Jamie, and Joe here.
I was actually thinking at some point of creating audio demonstraitions that detail some aspects of Virtualmin for anyone who's actually interested in that type of thing.
Once again, a nice job on creating something that works quite nicely indeed for many types of users.
That you folks even have GPL products is commendable as a lot of other companies won't or just insist on making people buy products in order to use them.
For a lot of us folks who might love using say more installer scripts etc with Virtualmin Pro, it's not an issue of wishing we could support you folks, but for a majority of blind folks today, even coming up with say $139 unless you're either self-employed already or maybe employed on a federal level is not tipical, since most of us just happen to not be making an income that justifies that type of cost expense, even if that's something we wish we could do.
So having a GPL product that can always be upgraded is nice.
Comments from either @Joe or @Jamie or even @eric and the rest of you folks would be much appreciated.
I hope you folks appreciate the ease of use that at least for me Virtualmin GPL at thisp oint has brought to my life in terms of just about everything.
While I can successfully use the command line, I'm not necessarily a command line only freek.
Your system has also been nice in setting up a working mail system.
Trust me. I've tried many different times, sometimes even with following manual guides, and have failed time and time again, to get a working out-of-the-box mail system, and spending countless frustrating hours of reinstalling systems only to fail again is nice to bring to an end with your product.
Thanks again, everybody.